Live coverage: Day 2 of SJP, ASA encampment continues on Main Quad
Temperatures have begun to drop on the Main Quad as day two of the encampment draws to a close. Small clusters remain speckled throughout the encampment, however, activity has largely settled down with many protesters heading into their tents for the night.
Day two was relatively uneventful compared to activities from earlier in the weekend, with minimal police presence and protesters largely left alone. At this point, there are still no negotiations occurring between the University administration and members involved with the encampment.
Several attempts at negotiations have fallen through, including a meeting between protesters and the University originally scheduled to occur Monday afternoon. Both parties are currently claiming the other is responsible for conversations not moving forward.
Reporters from The Daily Illini will continue providing updates throughout the night, along with livestreaming on Instagram.
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**The student has elected to remain anonymous for safety. This interview has been edited for length and clarity. When this interview was originally conducted, representatives from the encampment stated they would be playing “The Occupation of the American Mind.” Instead, “The Battle of Algiers” was played. It is unknown at the moment whether the encampment plans on playing “The Occupation of the American Mind.”**
The Daily Illini spoke with a representative from the encampment about its current programming and plans looking ahead to finals week.
DI: What do we have going on here right now?
Representative: We are preparing to set up a movie. This is our last programming event of the day. The film is called “The Occupation of the American Mind.” From my understanding, it focuses on the effect of Israeli propaganda on American citizens and educates us on the institutions that perpetuate that sort of propaganda.
DI: What kind of learning experience are you hoping to get from this movie and hoping everyone gets from this?
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Representative: To really hammer home the fact that institutions like the University of Illinois, like our government, are all complicit when we look at this genocide and look at, you know, the perpetuation of Western hegemony across the globe.
Obviously, propaganda is one of the biggest tools, media is one of the biggest tools that is used to divide people and spread misinformation. It creates a complicity for this colonial state.
DI: Is this a movie you guys were planning on showing yesterday?
Representative: I think it is. Yes, we had to get some more supplies to be able to even show this because we’re dealing with very limited resources here.
DI: Is there any plan to do this again tomorrow or a different movie similar to it?
Representative: Yes. We have a programming committee, and I’m a part of that committee, so we schedule engaging activities throughout the day. We chose the movie for the nighttime as well. One, because the projection only works in the dark but as something less engaging for people, but something they can sit and relax and watch. But tomorrow we should have another full day of programming. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but earlier we had two teach-ins and that was really engaging. It was a space to express how they felt, you know, being a part of this movement and they felt this related to what they’re doing here at the University.
DI: You guys have programs set up and events set up for students to do while they’re sitting here. What about the students who have finals coming up? What are your plans for that?
Representative: Pretty much everyone here has finals coming up that they need to fulfill. We plan to have areas where grad students and faculty can grade papers and things like that. Students can have resources to do their work. They need laptop chargers, they need pens, pencils or homework help. We plan to have that. As finals approach, we are definitely committed to putting academics first because we all are students here. It is important that we emphasize the fact that even though we’re out here protesting, it’s so important to get the things that need to be done.
DI: So if this continues on into finals week coming up, do you expect to see students leaving in mass?
Representative: No, I think we have all made sacrifices and I think people will continue to make sacrifices. I think, you know, with the support of the community and the faculty here, we’ve been able to engineer a really great setup that allows people to get their work done, keeps people fed, keeps people safe and really just fosters communities. So honestly, I think during finals week more people will show up. I’m really hopeful and I’ve seen, you know, the power that we have in engaging students.
**The student has elected to remain anonymous for safety reasons.**
A student representative camping out on the Main Quad spoke with The Daily Illini about their experiences inside the encampment over the last couple of days, along with how they hope the encampment is viewed by members of the community.
“We definitely plan on staying,” the student said. “We’re hoping to get more people to sleep here so we can sustain the camp longer. It seems like more people are going to come, especially without the possibility of rain.”
The student encouraged those interested in the encampment to join them, emphasizing the laid-back environment the place is trying to promote.
“We want to let people know this is a chill area. If you need to study here or take a nap, go ahead. We have a library if you need to read,” the student said. “We’re going to screen a movie … which I’m personally really excited for.”
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While the protesters aren’t approaching passersby to join, they welcome any who inquire to stay.
“We always tell them they’re welcome to any food snacks if they want to lay down, even if they want to sleep in a tent,” the student said. “I just don’t know how safe it is for (us) to ask people.”
The group continues to stand firm in its position, with plans to continue indefinitely until negotiations are made to their liking. Even with the weather last night tents remained dry and they haven’t run into problems worth noting.
“I think it was my tent that got a little rain in but there was night patrol and I was like ‘Could you guys put a tarp on my tent?’ And it was perfectly fine,” the student said. “We have shifts. We make sure everyone gets enough sleep.”
However, the student noted that conditions make sleep sometimes difficult.
“I tried to go to sleep and it was hard to because (there are) so many unknowns,” the student said. “I just got anxious.”
The encampment acknowledges that burnout is a potential but they are set on avoiding that by considering everyone’s condition.
“Every decision we make, we make together with the full camp. We always make sure to get temperature checks and (ask) how they’re feeling,” the student explained. “We want to make sure everyone’s the most comfortable protesting.”
With the encampment on the Main Quad approaching its third day, hygiene and other needs are vital. So far, protesters have had systems in place for dealing with this.
“For bathrooms, well, during the day all the buildings were open. I don’t know if I should disclose where we go at night just in case it’s a risk,” the student said. “We try to go home and change and shower as fast as humanly possible. When we’re away from the camp for too long, we get anxious.”
At this moment, there have been no reports of serious reasons for departing the encampment such as exhaustion or illness among its members.
“Thankfully we have been OK,” said the student. “People have been really caring. You can feel a strong sense of community.”
A group of about 20 people with Israeli flags congregated on the northern end of the Main Quad, at around 6:30 p.m. The Daily Illini had a conversation with group member Ethan Morady, a junior in Business, who identified as a Jewish and Israeli University student. Morady did not consider the group to be a counter-protest.
DI: Why did you guys decide to congregate here on the Quad today?
Morady: I started over there (the southern end of the Main Quad), just because I wanted to hear what they were kind of talking about. I came for a little bit yesterday, to also kind of hear what they were talking about, then I was at the (protest) at Alma Mater. Because like, as a Jewish student, as an Israeli student, this isn’t an issue I take lightly. This is something I take a great deal of effort into learning as much as I can, really understanding every issue at hand because it’s not something light. There are a lot of people dying, and some of those people are my family, some of those people are their family. And it’s not okay.
DI: This group here, are you guys a part of any organization here on campus?
Morady: I guess it looks like a little bit of a collection. There’s a little bit of the Jewish community here, there’s some people from Hillel, some people from Chabad.
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DI: Is there any message you would like to share with us here?
Morady: They’re not the first people to come after us. They won’t be the last, unfortunately, but like, we just want them to know that we’re happy about being Jewish and we’re not going anywhere.
One thing I will share, which is the reason I disdain some of these protests, like theirs over there, is because I feel bad for the Palestinian people. I do. They don’t have a lot of resolve, they don’t have a lot of future. But it’s not really because of the Israeli government. They conflate it with the Israeli government because it’s an easy cop-out. If they actually want to change, they’d pull out Hamas, they’d pull out the Islamic regime, the PIJ, Ismail Haniyeh, and the rest of the so-called Palestinian leadership that has turned Gaza into a cesspool of terrorism and devastation.
If the leaders of Hamas, and the PIJ and the Palestinian people actually cared, they wouldn’t have made themselves billionaires off of the suffering and pain of the Palestinian people. Hamas does this constantly, where they provoke Israel just so that Israel will respond, and they have more news stories. It’s the reason why in Israel, every single house has a bomb shelter in it — in the side of the roads, there’s bomb shelters everywhere. In Gaza, they have nothing, because Hamas just uses all the supplies and stuff for themselves.
I’ve said this before, as a Persian, my grandparents are from Iran. I love the Persian people, culture, society, all about it. What I don’t love, and what I can understand, is that it’s the Ayatollah and the Islamic regime that is ruining my country and my homeland. They’re the reason I can’t go back and see where my grandparents are from.
What bothers me is that (the protesters) can’t separate Ismail Haniyeh from the regular Gazan people, and that’s the major difference. A lot of these Palestinians and Gazans are stuck. But if you continuously support and love Hamas … and Gaza, and the West Bank and all these other places, they will have no resolve.
I’ll say this too. I don’t like Netanyahu (and) Ben-Gvir. They’ve also profited on radicalizing parts of the Israeli public, and they need to go too. But if you’re putting sole blame on Israel, you’re not looking in the right spot. But that’s just my two cents.
Robin Kaler, associate chancellor for strategic communications and marketing, issued an official statement to The Daily Illini about the University administration’s view on the student encampments.
The statement began with “We respect the rights of freedom of speech and expression and remain committed to providing a safe environment for all members of our community.”
The statement then discussed that University policies do not allow camping tents on the University Campus. When this policy is broken, the University will inform whoever breaches the policy “and instruct them to remove these items pursuant with negotiated timelines.”
“If our request is ignored, university staff are authorized to remove the items,” the statement read.
According to the statement, anyone who interferes with this process is subject to consequences, including possible immediate interim suspension for students and arrest when criminal law is violated.
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“Demonstrators who do not violate university policies are allowed to remain on a public space as long as they continue to abide by university policies and state and federal laws,” Kaler stated.
According to Kaler, the University’s actions so far “have been and will continue to be focused on keeping our campus community safe and providing our students with the best possible educational experience.”
A media representative from the encampment provided a comment on the recent Faculty for Justice in Palestine statement which expressed support for the student encampments and disagreed with claims made by Chancellor Robert Jones in a recent Massmail.
“We appreciate it so much, it is so great to see that among these admins … and faculty that do not support us, and demonize us, there are really great faculty … great educators that are willing to extend their support as much as they can, and they’re willing to be publicly supportive of us,” the representative said.
The representative said they hope that with support from the FJP, the student encampment will have more leverage in achieving its mission.
“I’m hoping that they can use this as leeway in our negotiation process to get a divestment. I also think that just by having such strong support with people that are educators in the school, that the school relies on, is really important because they’re kind of forced to hear out their faculty,” the representative said.
A link for the FJP’s statement can be found here.
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At the site of the encampment Monday afternoon, The Daily Illini spoke with a student who identified themselves as Jewish and pro-Israel.
**This interview has been edited for length and clarity.**
DI: From your perspective, what’s going on here today?
Student: It may just look like a peaceful protest, but personally, I think it’s to intimidate Jewish students on campus. I know that doesn’t seem violent, but the signs they have and the words that they’ve been chanting (are). For example, “From the river to the sea” is very antisemitic, and it’s actually hate speech, according to the House of Representatives. I think their purpose is really just to scare the Jewish students.
DI: What is your opinion surrounding all of this?
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Student: So honestly, it is a little bit scary being a Jewish student on campus because people have been blankly antisemitic towards me. My brother has been told to go back to Europe and make pig noises and different things while we were just standing there with Israeli flags. So it’s a little scary, but I’ll never stand down. We’re proud to be Jewish.
DI: Do you believe that there is a way to be anti-Zionist without being antisemitic?
Student: Not really, if I’m being honest. I think, in these circumstances, these people are calling “From the river to the sea.” This is a call for the annihilation of the Jewish state and the Jewish people, which is a genocidal term.
DI: Is there any way that they could speak out about what they believe in without intimidating or scaring Jewish students?
Student: I’m all for speaking out for the innocent civilians that are being killed. I don’t want any innocent person to be killed — I think that’s a very Jewish opinion. I think that when they have signs that say “from the river to the sea” and things like that, that’s when it starts to get very antisemitic.
If they just stood here and were like, “We are here in honor of the civilians that have been killed,” I think that would be fine. I also think that they need to be condemning Hamas and calling to free the hostages, but I haven’t heard a single one of those chants at all.
DI: Over the past two days, Jewish community centers including Chabad and Hillel have published statements in support of Jewish students on campus. What is your perspective on these actions from campus entities?
Student: Chabad and the Hillel have been amazing. I’ve talked to rabbis and people there and they’ve been very supportive. Anything we need, we can go to them.
DI: What’s your opinion of Jewish students engaging in anti-Zionist actions?
Student: It’s a very hard question. I know that some people are very against the Israeli government, which I think is alright. I personally think the Israeli government has made a lot of mistakes in this war, but I also think that we’re doing as much as we can to save lives instead of killing them like Hamas does.
DI: Do you believe that Israel has the right to act as they have throughout the course of this conflict?
Student: I think Israel has every right to exist and defend itself and I will forever stand by that statement.
The Daily Illini spoke with a student counter-protester named Sean who was standing near the encampment holding an Israeli flag.
**This update contains an interview with a source who has elected to be identified by first name only. The source has elected to remain partially anonymous for safety reasons.**
According to Sean, he did not have a strong desire for activism prior. However, he disagreed with the establishment of encampments, which he says violates University policy.
“There’s rules on protests … things you’re allowed to do, things you’re not allowed to do at the University,” Sean said. “No matter what stance you take in conflicts. I don’t believe that … (you can) overall cause disruptions to the University community.”
Sean added he thinks the protest goes beyond the pro-Palestinian stance, which he has no problem with directly supporting.
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“They’re going beyond calling for ceasefires and things of that nature and directly supporting Hamas’ call for days of protests. They respond to that,” Sean said. “They celebrated the October 7 attack after it occurred, (and) organized an event calling the people in that attack glorious martyrs.”
Sean said he believes he cannot support the encampment because protesters have not condemned Hamas.
“The evidence is pretty clear that (protesters) do not wish to see or acknowledge that Hamas is and has been a terrorist organization,” the student said. “It’s just something that I cannot support and I cannot stand by.”
Sean said he thinks the protesters are “openly advocating for the destruction of the Jewish state” and “praising people who have called for the extermination of Jewish people.”
Sean said he was standing in front of the encampment with an Israeli flag to communicate his disagreements with the basis of the protest.
“So, in the time I’m having between classes and finals preparation, I want to kind of come out here and (let) … people know that not everybody is with these people,” Sean said.
The Daily Illini spoke with a representative from SJP about their schedule for the day.
DI: Could you just talk to me a little bit about what your schedule looks like today?
SJP Representative: Faculty for Justice in Palestine has put together a really good itinerary for us. We have a corner set up right now for studying. A lot of graduate students are actually helping the kids that are here. We’re obviously going to have poster-making. We’re gonna be screening a movie tonight, and we have different educational things going on as well as a brief on what’s going on in Gaza right now.
DI: What movie are you screening tonight?
SJP Representative: We’re unsure currently.
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DI: Is there anything specifically, I know you guys have prayers scheduled, that you want to talk about?
SJP Representative: Yes. So obviously we want to tend to every religion, and we will continue to have prayer at every single prayer time. We also hosted a Passover (Seder) yesterday to ensure that our Jewish students were able to observe that, as well as we’re continuing to make sure that there’s accessible meals. Kosher meals, obviously meals without pork and alcohol, because obviously no alcohol or pork, and additionally vegetarian and vegan options. Trying to make sure that we’re accommodating to all of our crowds.
DI: Is there anything else you want to talk about for today or just in general?
SJP representative: We are just looking for support from our community right now. So even if you’re not staying here to camp, obviously we have food, we have resources and we’re honestly just here to educate the community about what’s going on in Gaza and why our University needs to divest immediately.
Faculty for Justice for Palestine released a statement in support of the student encampments. They denounced Chancellor Jones’s claim in the April 26 Massmail that the ongoing protests pose a threat to campus safety.
FJP also rejected the implementation of the police force against “students protesting genocide.” Additionally, they condemn the University’s investments in corporations “instrumental to the waging of war and ongoing genocide.”
They called on the University to acknowledge student demands of divestment from weapons manufacturers, disclosure of financial assets and investments, end connections with genocidal corporations and provide amnesty for all student protestors.
The full statement can be found here.
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Organizers are distributing policy-related written materials to visitors and protesters in the form of printed pamphlets.
One of the texts identified by The Daily Illini was a recent essay entitled “First we take Columbia” from illwill.com, a website performing self-described “partisan analysis of the present.” Another text was a report from organizers at California Polytechnic State University.
The Daily Illini interviewed a student in Engineering on the Main Quad.
**This interview has been edited for length and clarity.**
DI: What’s your opinion on what’s going on?
Student in Engineering: So, I’ve been aware of the University not being very transparent with how all the investment is used and where it goes. When I go to career fairs, Caterpillar is right there, which I don’t like because, if I intern there, it’s me supporting a company that kills my own people. We tried multiple times to reach out to the University and have conversations with them only to be met with fake promises and delay tactics just to calm people down. They’d always say we’re gonna have a meeting, show up. We do show up, and it’s just yapping. There were no drastic measures, which is hilarious because most of it is our tuition.
Having this money used in ways that we’re not aware of is threatening to us. Camps are all over the U.S., and they only started being a thing after we felt desperate that we were not being heard. So these tents represent a lot. They represent all the refugees and the struggles they face. The struggles that people face overnight are really small. We’re on a beautiful campus. It was a beautiful night. We did not struggle at all, and the fact that it caused so much chaos just because tents were set up is insane to me, it’s all frustrating.
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It doesn’t make sense how hard it is. How hard is it to not give money to killers?
It shouldn’t be even a question. The Massmail yesterday said “the protesters did not want to show up” — they did this multiple times. The only reason this is set up is because there is no transparency from the University. I’ve never seen a Massmail sent out like this. It was lies, very misinforming.
DI: What do you think about that, besides how the University has responded so far?
Student: I’m just glad. Honestly, it’s so sad that my standards have become so low. But I’m glad that no one raided overnight, no one got tear gassed. Up until now, only one kid got arrested — most of his charges were dropped and he’s fine. Comparing our campus to Columbia’s, the administration is worried for their PR.
**This update contains an anonymous interview with an organizer of the protest. The organizer is unidentified due to safety concerns.**
The second day of encampment on the south side of the Main Quad has brought strategic success for protesters seeking divestment, according to an organizer. The organizer said in spite of their continued calls for divestment, the negotiation meeting between organizers and University administration that was previously slated for Monday afternoon has been canceled.
The encampment was first established early Friday morning at the north side of the Main Quad in front of the Alma Mater. The original encampment was torn down following police intervention and pressure from the University administration. After unsuccessful negotiations with Associate Vice Chancellor for Student Success Jim Hintz, organizers resolved to reject an offer to reorganize at the Spurlock Museum. On Sunday, the protest reorganized on the south end of the Main Quad.
“We’ve made it very clear to administration that camps, and specifically tents, will not be taken down until we are sure that they are beginning the process of divestment,” the organizer said. “I think one thing they made very clear yesterday was that their demand for a meeting was that we take down the camps, but we decided we will not be taking down the camps until negotiation happens in person with the president and the chancellor.”
Sunday was viewed as a strategic success for the encampment by involved groups, according to the organizer.
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“We were able to keep our tents up,” the organizer said. “We had a bunch of people sleeping here, and in general, I viewed it as a win.”
The organizer explained that the encampment was expecting an intervention early Monday morning, but nothing occurred.
“We were expecting something at 6 a.m., but nothing happened,” the organizer said. “We’re still up and running, and we have … faculty doing educational workshops for the encampment participants.”
According to the organizer, the University has refused to schedule a meeting due to the continued encampment.
“They decided that there will also be no meeting on Monday, which we find very, very unfair for those in the Act Now (for Palestine) group,” the organizer explained. “They have made a point not to come to the encampment.”
The organizer said the protest does not call for immediate and complete divestment from the aforementioned weapons manufacturers, but rather a long-term written strategy that outlines a concrete plan.
“The goal is to ensure that the process begins,” they said. “We know the University can’t just divest tomorrow, but we need in writing that steps will be taken to ensure divestment and complete divestment.”